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Ireland versus Iceland

Iceland would win. Consider what has happened to these 2 countries since 2008. Iceland are not part of the EU and held a public referendum to accept the terms of a repayment deal for money lent by British and Dutch governments as a result of the IceSave crisis.The public rejected the initial terms of the deal (93% against) and the government used this result to negotiate a new and more favorable deal.

Let’s look at the terms. They’re paying fixed rates to both NL and UK. 3% to the Netherlands on £1.2Bn STG and 3.3% to the UK on £2.3 Bn STG. Good terms so far but it gets even better. Payments will not begin until July 2016 and cannot continue beyond 2046. Iceland has also secured a limit on the amount it is expected to pay out relative to its national growth. Payments cannot be lower than 1.3% of Iceland’s GDP nor exceed 5%.

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Over-taxed but under-“taxed”

Even if we ignore consumption taxes, I’m not sure it matters to the person paying whether it’s income tax they’re paying or other forms of levies such as income or health. Ultimately, they all go into the pot and reduce take-home pay.
I calculated % total deductions from gross income for salaries from 10k to 140k.
I based my calculations on
http://www.hookhead.com/Tools/tax2010.jsp
It’s far from linear. The steepest rises occur between about 15k and 45k. Someone on 20k a year for example pays 6.38% of deductions. Someone on 50k pays 28.86%. A whopping >22% increase.  Now if we compare another 30k band 80k (@ 36.48%) to 110k (@ 40.23%) we see that the percentage change in deductions is much less i.e. those on middle-ish incomes benefit less from increases in their gross salaries whereas those earning multiples of the industrial wage have more incentive to earn more.
This is effectively regressive even if it isn’t technically so as there’s an ever decreasing increase in the total deductions as you earn more. When I have the time I’ll calculate the changes in these deductions over time. I believe that the austerity budgets have and will make it even less worthwhile for the average joe to work harder and increase their income unless they can jump the income gap into the “well off” camp.
So I don’t believe it’s the case that people aren’t paying enough tax (even though the gov will try to extract blood from stones). However a flat tax rate would incentivise the middle incomes to earn more, may result in increased productivity, create a more just tax system and could coincide with more cost-efficient and streamlined processing of taxes, social insurance and levies.Even if we ignore consumption taxes, I’m not sure it matters to the person paying whether it’s income tax they’re paying or other forms of levies such as income or health. Ultimately, they all go into the pot and reduce take-home pay.
I calculated % total deductions from gross income for salaries from 10k to 140k.
I based my calculations on
http://www.hookhead.com/Tools/tax2010.jsp
It’s far from linear. The steepest rises occur between about 15k and 45k. Someone on 20k a year for example pays 6.38% of deductions. Someone on 50k pays 28.86%. A whopping >22% increase.  Now if we compare another 30k band 80k (@ 36.48%) to 110k (@ 40.23%) we see that the percentage change in deductions is much less i.e. those on middle-ish incomes benefit less from increases in their gross salaries whereas those earning multiples of the industrial wage have more incentive to earn more.
This is effectively regressive even if it isn’t technically so as there’s an ever decreasing increase in the total deductions as you earn more. When I have the time I’ll calculate the changes in these deductions over time. I believe that the austerity budgets have and will make it even less worthwhile for the average joe to work harder and increase their income unless they can jump the income gap into the “well off” camp.
So I don’t believe it’s the case that people aren’t paying enough tax (even though the gov will try to extract blood from stones). However a flat tax rate would incentivise the middle incomes to earn more, may result in increased productivity, create a more just tax system and could coincide with more cost-efficient and streamlined processing of taxes, social insurance and levies.

Was reading Ronan Lyon’s excellent blog today and it occurred to me that perhaps his comments on income tax are only part of the picture.

Even if we ignore consumption taxes, I’m not sure it matters to the person paying whether it’s income tax they’re paying or other forms of levies such as income or health. Ultimately, they all go into the pot and reduce take-home pay.

I calculated % total deductions from gross income for salaries from €10k to €140k.