{"id":11712,"date":"2005-05-31T14:25:06","date_gmt":"2005-05-31T14:25:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/gaisan.com\/blogs\/?p=11712"},"modified":"2005-05-31T14:25:06","modified_gmt":"2005-05-31T14:25:06","slug":"re-idea","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/gaisan.com\/blogs\/?p=11712","title":{"rendered":"RE: Idea."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Hi John, Stephen,<br \/>\nI&#8217;ve had a chat with a few people last night and this project seems a goer, with a few provisos however. As you&#8217;re aware John, a relation of mine (uncle of sorts) was a consultant to the ESB in creating and installing their fibre network. When we originally floated the idea of data archive business we proposed basing it in the IDA&#8217;s technology park. This is quite empty but the park itself isn&#8217;t connected to the ESB&#8217;s network and is not too distant from Carriganore. Therefore I propose that we would raise funds to cover both the technology park and carriganore, possibly in a ring configuration. AFAIK the land in this area is mostly owned by WIT, the IDA and David Flynn. Substantial office development is planned in this area. <\/p>\n<p>A Fibre network connecting these points is advantageous to all these parties. Laying fibre is cheaper than it used to be and I estimate the total cost of this project at around 400-450k euro, including maintenance over 5 years, based on a chat with my uncle. (Don&#8217;t forget maintenance) We would install DWDM POS equipment on either side so bandwidth is virtually limitless. Hundreds of Gbps currently achievable. THe cost of the venture isn&#8217;t prohibitive. Now here&#8217;s the thing.<br \/>\nThis project may be geared heavily (mostly bank finance of around 80% of capital costs) if we can prove that the project is self-financing over the first few years. For example we could do the following:<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Offer to complete the WIT to Carriganore section first;<br \/>\n&#8211; Offer WIT a 10% stake in the campus company to build and manage advanced DWDM-based fibre networks;<br \/>\n&#8211; Ask WIT for a 10 year guaranteed lease on the network of 60k per year (dropping to 55 if front loaded) the project then becomes self-financing;<br \/>\n&#8211; Consult with other parties e.g. IDA\/DFL\/ESB about the best route for the network in the area and possible incentives for its construction.<br \/>\n&#8211; Ask other parties to guarantee (signed lease contracts with largish break penalties) fibre leases upon network construction.<br \/>\n&#8211; ask WIT what land is available for development in the carriganore site. We could also determine what planning permission has been secured in WIT&#8217;s &#8220;Research Park&#8221;. I understand that some of the buildings are suitable for quite large and technologically sophisticated enterprises. Therefore, we could team up with a developer who required an extremely high bandwidth site with maximum connection redundancy. I might know someone!<\/p>\n<p>John, you&#8217;d have to spec out the wireless equipment required to connect to other networks. Let me know how you get on. <\/p>\n<p>Sincerest regards, <\/p>\n<p>   &#8230;shane<\/p>\n<p>&gt; &#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>\n&gt; From: John ronan [mailto:jronan@irishsystems.com]<br \/>\n&gt; Sent: 30 May 2005 17:32<br \/>\n&gt; To: Des Burke<br \/>\n&gt; Cc: Shane Michael Dempsey; Stephen Burke<br \/>\n&gt; Subject: Idea.<br \/>\n&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &#8212;&#8211;BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>\n&gt; Hash: SHA1<br \/>\n&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; Currently TSSG is waiting for the our new building to be completed on<br \/>\n&gt; the new &#8220;carriganore&#8221; site.   There is currently no communications<br \/>\n&gt; facilities out there of any description.  The college have a 20 or so<br \/>\n&gt; year development plan for the 120 Acre Site.<br \/>\n&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; The current best offer the college has is to pay \u20ac70,0000 per year for<br \/>\n&gt; a minimum of three years to Eircom, this would drop to \u20ac60,00\/year if<br \/>\n&gt; they paid more &#8216;up front&#8217;.<br \/>\n&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; If we guestimate that it would cost \u20ac80,000 for the civils on the site<br \/>\n&gt; \u20ac130,000 for getting the fibre to the ESB Point of Presence, and lets<br \/>\n&gt; say \u20ac40,000 for the active equipment at each end. Thats \u20ac250,000 to<br \/>\n&gt; install the fibre.<br \/>\n&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; The simplistic plan would be to try and get the college tied into a<br \/>\n&gt; contract for 5 (or more) years at \u20ac50,000 year.<br \/>\n&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; Problem 1.<br \/>\n&gt; When the motorway\/new bridge\/new bypass is finished, there will be<br \/>\n&gt; Fibre running alongside the entire road.  This is part of the cost of<br \/>\n&gt; construction of the road I think to put this in.  This would<br \/>\n&gt; immediately mean that there would be &#8216;competition&#8217; on the site.  I&#8217;m<br \/>\n&gt; not sure of the timescale involved here.<br \/>\n&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; Additional business:<br \/>\n&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; Storage:<br \/>\n&gt; We had an idea previously for Gaisan Storage (I forget the name Shane,<br \/>\n&gt; Apologies), where we basically acted<br \/>\n&gt; as an &#8216;off site&#8217; data storage facility for any company that wanted such<br \/>\n&gt; a facility.  Shane may be able to dig up some projected figures.  With<br \/>\n&gt; fibre connectivity to the ESB Pop and hence backbone, this idea could<br \/>\n&gt; again be &#8216;floated.<br \/>\n&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; Backhaul:<br \/>\n&gt; I spoke to Peter O&#8217;Keeffe of Premier Broadband, he is currently paying<br \/>\n&gt; \u20ac200 per megabit per month for 20Mbps . i.e \u20ac4000 per month. A<br \/>\n&gt; Dedicated wireless connection from the roof of a building on the site<br \/>\n&gt; should, relatively easily hit one of his Sites in Tipperary, this would<br \/>\n&gt; have to be verified, but he would be very interested in developing this<br \/>\n&gt; idea further as it would then give him resilience in his network.<br \/>\n&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; On the college map for the site, there are some &#8216;unassigned&#8217; sites near<br \/>\n&gt; where the current TSSG building is being built.<br \/>\n&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; I know its all fairly vague, but what can I say, I only though of it a<br \/>\n&gt; few hours ago.<br \/>\n&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; Regards<br \/>\n&gt; John<br \/>\n&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; &#8211; &#8212;<br \/>\n&gt; John Ronan , +353-51-302938<br \/>\n&gt; Telecommunications Software &amp;  Systems Group,  http:\/\/www.tssg.org<br \/>\n&gt; &#8212;&#8211;BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>\n&gt; Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin)<br \/>\n&gt;<br \/>\n&gt; iD8DBQFCm0ADsk10UCGCmycRAtunAJ0c9qJrMF8Tx\/N9oIhGLn\/S+cm5BgCbBhyZ<br \/>\n&gt; 3o57TFMuJyJa+CVnv0ai\/D8=<br \/>\n&gt; =Un6b<br \/>\n&gt; &#8212;&#8211;END PGP SIGNATURE&#8212;&#8211;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hi John, Stephen, I&#8217;ve had a chat with a few people last night and this project seems a goer, with a few provisos however. As you&#8217;re aware John, a relation of mine (uncle of sorts) was a consultant to the ESB in creating and installing their fibre network. When we originally floated the idea of [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/gaisan.com\/blogs\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11712"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/gaisan.com\/blogs\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/gaisan.com\/blogs\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gaisan.com\/blogs\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gaisan.com\/blogs\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=11712"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/gaisan.com\/blogs\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11712\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/gaisan.com\/blogs\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=11712"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gaisan.com\/blogs\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=11712"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gaisan.com\/blogs\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=11712"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}